Oprah: James Frey is here and I have to say it is difficult for me to talk to you because I feel really duped. But more importantly, I feel that you betrayed millions of readers.

I think it’s such a gift to have millions of people to read your work and that bothers me greatly. So now, as I sit here today I don’t know what is true and I don’t know what isn’t.

So first of all, I wanted to start with The Smoking Gun report titled, “The Man Who Conned Oprah” and I want to know—were they right?

James: I think most of what they wrote was pretty accurate. Absolutely.

Oprah: Okay.

James: I think they did a good job detailing some of the discrepancies between some of the actual facts of the events…

Oprah: What [The Smoking Gun] said was that you lied about the length of time that you spent in jail. How long were you in jail?

James: [The Smoking Gun was] right about that. I was in [jail] for a few hours.

Oprah: Not 87 days?

James: Correct.

Oprah: Was there a Lilly?

James: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Oprah: When I was reading the book and I got to the last page and Lilly has hung herself and you arrived the day that she was hung. I couldn’t even believe it. I’m like gasping. I’m calling people, like ‘Oh my God. This happened!’ So if you weren’t in jail all that time and you’re telling her to hold on, why couldn’t you get to her?

James: I mean, what actually happened was…I went through Ohio. I was there briefly, [then] I went down to North Carolina where I was living at the time.

Oprah: Uh huh.

James: And I was closing up my life there. The process was vastly accelerated from what I wrote in the book.

Oprah: I don’t know what that means. What does that mean, vastly accelerated?

James: I mean it happened in a much shorter period of time. And we were planning on meeting up with each other and she committed suicide before we met up.

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